You Always Hurt The Ones You Love

“You bitch,” he said.
I had just finished reading to my friend at Atlantic Records the review I had written about his group, Little Brother, in the Washington Post.
“It’s a good review,” I said.
“No, it isn’t. It’s negative.”
“Are you kidding? I used the word ‘genius,’” I replied.
“Yeah, but you ended negative. Fuckin’ writers.”
Truth is, he’s right. I was much harder on Little Brother last week than I was on Lil’ Kim today. But the irony is that I’ll never listen to Kim’s album anywhere near as much as I’ll listen to “The Minstrel Show.”
Not that “The Naked Truth” isn’t a good album. It’s probably Kim’s best. But that’s not really saying much. Kim has always been much more important for who she is (the best female mc) and what she represents (a psychological tie to a dead icon) than for her music. But I didn’t have many expectations for “The Naked Truth,” and she easily exceeded all of them.
On the other hand, the Little Brother experience is all about expectation. They shoulder the hopes of hip-hop fans who long for substance, exactly the kind of thing we don’t get from Kim. But Little Brother, despite years of labor on backpack rap’s chitlin’ circuit, is still a bit like unripe fruit. They haven’t yet been able to do the thing that even Kim has done on her new album — write something anthemic (and by that I mean an anthem that transcends their current audience).
That being said, it’s Little Brother’s music that swims around in my head as I take the train or walk around the city. And I think if you cherry picked the best songs from their three albums, you could make an incredible one. But, perhaps to a fault, I expect more from Little Brother because I see their potential and their pretensions. I mean, if Lil’ Kim can write a hit record, Little Brother should be able to. Or else, don’t whine about the current state of hip-hop at all. Put up or shut up.
When my artists used to argue with me about whether or not a song was a “single” or not, they would go to lengths to defend their 32-bar verses and self-centered themes. And I would say to them, look, there are certain incontrovertible properties of the popular song that haven’t changed for hundreds of years, and hold true from genre to genre, whether folk or punk, ballad or street jam: verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus, motherfucker. And have something to say. Stray from that at your own peril.
That — in the long run — is what has created the phenomenon of “backpack rap,” and the whole schism between commercial and conscious hip-hop. Not some diabolical scheme to dumb down the music. But that otherwise intelligent artists, in their rebellion from the norm, have thrown the baby out with the bathwater. They think they’re rejecting
And no one is above the law, baby.



17 Comments:
"look, there are certain incontrovertible properties of the popular song that haven’t changed for hundreds of years: ....verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus, motherfucker"
ROTFLMAO! Dan, I love you.
Little Brother should have put "Ain't Nobody Like Me" on the album and relased that as a single. If I remember that track follows that pattern and radio could have picked it up.
IM ABOVE THE LAAAAAW DAN!!!!!
Respect my authoritaaaay....
-Adisa
p.s. little kim dissed Muslim women and ran off at the mouth about F!@# Afghanistan....i don't care about her LP, or what happens to her in prison....Actually, thats not true....I hope he is able to find her self, and not be afriad to show herself after whe gets out....
Damn....I thought I was the only one who felt this way.
But looking a little more deeply I also disagree with you. You are looking through the same eyes as Clive Davis when you talk about a hit. You are looking through the eyes of the masses (or the mainstream.) The mainstream is so programmed to dig (likes and dislikes don't come from within...but that can be debated) the formula, if you want to reach them then you just take it, use, abuse it, and then break it. Stevie has done it time & time again, and so have all of the great writers/composers. They are like martial artists that develop thier own style. First you have to master the style that already exists. In the case of music, the style that already exists will plug you into the collective phsyce of the matrix (or mainstream).
That is why the debate on Little Brother will never end. They are like Jesus without the Parables....hella hard to understand.
Blue Collar-
I would argue that classic song structure is programmed into our DNA. In other words, we're predisposed to expect refrains because they deliver something that our mind and bervous system in expecting.
However: that being saidm you are absolutely right about beinga slave to the form before you become a master, and Stevie (and Coltrane) would be good examples. But can you really name a popular Stevie song that ignored classic conventions of song structure? I can't. And you certainly aren't claiming that Little Brother has achieved such mastery yet through slavish discipline... But then again, you compare them to Jesus. :-)
lol...I like that Jesus pun.
The key phrase in what you stated about our nervous system is "I think." If I think really hard I am sure I can name some Stevie songs that illustrate my point, but one song does come to mind; 'Lady in my life' by Micheal Jackson. Also, would you deny that Mozart composed some "hits" in his day?
Blue Collar -
Ok - I am about to do something reeeeeeealy gay (no homophobe), but here is the structure to Michael Jackson's (gulp) "Lady In My Life":
Verse One:
There’ll Be No Darkness Tonight
Lady Our Love Will Shine
Just Put Your Trust In My Heart
And Meet Me In Paradise, Girl
You’re Every Wonder In This World To Me
A Treasure Time Won’t Steal Away
Chorus:
So Listen To My Heart
Lay Your Body Close To Mine
Let Me Fill You With My Dreams
I Can Make You Feel Alright
And Baby Through The Years
Gonna Love You More Each Day
So I Promise You Tonight
That You’ll Always Be The Lady In My Life
Bridge:
Lay Back In My Tenderness
Let’s Make This A Night We Won’t Forget
Girl, I Need Your Sweet Caress
Reach Out To A Fantasy
Two Hearts In The Beat Of Ecstasy
Come To Me, Girl
Chorus:
And I Will Keep You Warm
Through The Shadows Of The Night
Let Me Touch You With My Love
I Can Make You Feel So Right
And Baby Through The Years
Even When We’re Old And Gray
I Will Love You More Each Day
‘Cause You Will Always Be The Lady In My Life
Vamp:
Stay With Me
I Want You To Stay With Me…
WOW. Stevie is fucking BRILLIANT isn't he? One verse, then to a chorus, then a great bridge that leads back to the chorus. It's a variant of classic structure, but the important thing is that the song has a real center of gravity. Stevie can't HELP but compose his songs that way, because he spent 10 years in Berry Gordy bootcamp.
Now show me a Stevie song that's all verse and no chorus. Not an instrumental like "Contusion" either :-)
Ocassionally you'll have what I call the "chorus tag" instead of a standard chorus, like "Village Ghetto Land": A series of verses that end in the same phrase. But in that sense, the verses themselves become choruses.
All I'm REALLY saying is that hip-hop, in becomeing popular music, had to conform to classic song structure. I actually found, rummaging through Rick's parents' house, the NYU notebook where t la rock wrote his verses, where Rick had drawn a circle around some of his lines and said, repeat this, this is your chorus. Rick was one of the people responsible for that change in hip-hop. It was a very good change, my friend.
Or else, you'd be hearing emcees, to paraphrase ODB, "rap and rap and rap and rap and rap and rap.... maaaaaaaaan FUCK THAT!"
:-)
oh wait... stevie didn;t write that song... it was Rod temperton, I think.. lemme check... yes, it was
OK, just to be a ROYAL pain in the ass:
ATCQ's Scenario REMIX. Hit. No chorus or bridge to speak of.
Discuss.
Oh yeah? Then what song is THIS from:
"Here we go yo
Here we go yo
So what so what so what's the scenario"
The REMIX, Dan! As in, "Here, in 1992, we present: The Fabulous What's the Scenario Remix. Whereas, there are seven emcees, six which are in physical form, one which is in spiritual essence, and he goes by the name of..."
Am I the only one who loved that even more than the original?
P.S. RIP Kid Hood
true...hella gay...but point made
I stand corrected.
Dan you made a very important albeit debatable point about LB ignoring the formula. Your claim actually gives this argument a fresh perspective. But, I think the main reason LB is not successful (in addition to making music that's barely appreciated by the DNA of a million people) is the fact that the promotion machine has no faith in them. They even made a video for this second Lp as opposed to The Listening and got the door slammed in their face. No one wants to give them a chance to even find out if their own formula works or not. Not BET,not the folks who write reviews(some one allegedly resigned from The Source over a dubious LB review). All these factors are working against Little Brother.
i agree with you on the Little Brother review. they are dope but they are NOT hip-hop's saviors. I have the same beef with Kanye, he is okay but not a savior.
the 90s ladies and gentlemen are long gone.. we cannot relive those days.
Little Brother laid out the formula though: dope beats + dope rhymes = dope music. thats it.
I think it was the immortal Rick Rubin who convinced Def Jam artists DMC to do the verse-chorus-verse-bridge-chorus thingy and it has worked for them
there is a way to do it to freak it and educate the masses.
about the remix of Scenario:
Only a few know it out of the backpack circle , EVERYONE remembers teh original (which is actually the remix but Kid Hood died)
"verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus, motherfucker"
" It's a variant of classic structure, but the important thing is that the song has a real center of gravity. "
Why are you emphatically making a point that you are really not interested in making?
Later you sort of correct yourself by taking about variants of classic structure. Because if we look at the record there are many of slight variations that don't fit your ruberic. Let's take "California Love" .
Structure= chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-verse-chorus-vamp. Not the same. Slightly different. What you are getting at is the lack of anthems or strong hooks which our ears gravitate towards. Something people can and will sing along with. Keep pushin your lighters up, but there's not just one way to do it. I got into this argument about structure recently regarding harmonic structure, but I won't get into that right now and just say that most hip hop songs and many other songs have a repeated or no harmonic structure which was at one point thought to be central to Western pop music. Things change. In classical music people used to write in many forms such as sonata form: intro, theme 1, and 2, transition (bridge?) development, and the recapitulation of the two themes, or ignoring the intro and transition, ABA. A huge amount of the popular music produced in(especially in the early part of) the twentieth century follows a similar format AABA. You know show tunes like "My Funny Valentine" and jazz, which at one point popular, originals like "A Night in Tunisia". Not to mention big band arrangements.
I would say that often the whole tune is the anthem really. Something easy to whistle or sing, although often the B sections are more forgotten and serve as a departure to build tension toward the A section.
True, verse-chorus-verse-chorus-bridge-chorus, has a large body of precendent as a successful song form, but it hasn't been around forever. This is not however, how it always has been, nor is it strictly followed today or by Stevie Wonder for that matter.
Check out a little known tune called "Superstition".
Its kind of like hip hop if you think about it. Except what you might call the chorus:
"When you believe in things you don't understand then you suffer
Superstition ain't the way"
(hmmm)
is a tiny four bar thing which isn't really the anthem or memorable (anthemic) part of the song.
Its kind of like a Little Brother song with long verses and a short chorus. People like "Supersition".
There isn't one way to go about doing things. Lots of songs don't have bridges.
In my ears song structure was not the same back in the day as it is now, so it doesn't have to be the same in the future as it is today. Innovation, for better or worse, happens. True, in order to sell millions of records you need to have something catchy or that can be understood easily. That's why Schoenberg's records aren't flying off the shelves, but "incontrovertible properties of the popular song that haven't changed for hundreds of years"? Really?
I dig the tension and release in Little Brother's music.
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